In a special edition of the podcast Café Europa, Joris Luyendijk speaks with Hajar Yagkoubi and Stefan de Vries about Europe caught between two fires. Joris makes clear how vulnerable we in Europe are — militarily, economically, and digitally. But how do we move to action instead of looking away or being paralysed by fear?
Joris also talks about his visits to Ukraine and how the war has permanently changed his view of the world. Why is the future of Europe being decided there? And what can we learn from Ukraine to stand on our own two feet?
- Joris Luyendijk — writer and anthropologist who advocates for the fate of Ukrainians.
- Hajar Yagkoubi — host of the Café Europa podcast and presenter and speaker for, among others, NPO Radio 1 and Eva.
- Stefan de Vries — Europe commentator for Eva, BNR, Pauw & De Wit, Haagsch College, and the Café Europa podcast.